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> <channel><title>Comments on: Exadata Snippits From Oracle F4Q09 Earnings Call</title> <atom:link href="http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call</link> <description>Oracle Database Performance and Scalability Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:47:56 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Greg Rahn</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-11105</link> <dc:creator>Greg Rahn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-11105</guid> <description>@Amir RiazWhile everyone is entitled to an opinion, it seems yours is not based on any experience with Exadata, correct?  So to say Oracle and Exadata are an OLTP system seems a bit ignorant given the numerous data warehousing technologies that specifically exist in both the Oracle Database and Exadata (and of which Teradata does not have).  My recent experience with customer POCs on both Teradata and Exadata (Oracle Database Machine) show that a 1 rack Oracle DB Machine can outperform an EDW Teradata 12 node 1200 HDD system, and somehow I really doubt that 12 nodes of Teradata is cheaper than a single rack of Oracle DB Machine, unless obscene discount rates are being applied (though two can play that game as well).  Certainly some of that has to do with Exadata V2&#039;s EHCC (Hybrid Columnar Compression) which has far superior compression (and thus increasing logical disk scan rates) over Teradata&#039;s dictionary compression (max 255 per column which must be specified at table creation time) but mostly it has to do with the poor disk throughput rates Teradata has because of the lack of sequential I/O it does, which Exadata exceeds at as well as the addition of Exadata Flash Cache.  Also, if you want to cite some Teradata FUDpaper, save us both the time, especially one as factually inaccurate and outdated as that one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amir Riaz</p><p>While everyone is entitled to an opinion, it seems yours is not based on any experience with Exadata, correct?  So to say Oracle and Exadata are an OLTP system seems a bit ignorant given the numerous data warehousing technologies that specifically exist in both the Oracle Database and Exadata (and of which Teradata does not have).  My recent experience with customer POCs on both Teradata and Exadata (Oracle Database Machine) show that a 1 rack Oracle DB Machine can outperform an EDW Teradata 12 node 1200 HDD system, and somehow I really doubt that 12 nodes of Teradata is cheaper than a single rack of Oracle DB Machine, unless obscene discount rates are being applied (though two can play that game as well).  Certainly some of that has to do with Exadata V2&#8242;s EHCC (Hybrid Columnar Compression) which has far superior compression (and thus increasing logical disk scan rates) over Teradata&#8217;s dictionary compression (max 255 per column which must be specified at table creation time) but mostly it has to do with the poor disk throughput rates Teradata has because of the lack of sequential I/O it does, which Exadata exceeds at as well as the addition of Exadata Flash Cache.  Also, if you want to cite some Teradata FUDpaper, save us both the time, especially one as factually inaccurate and outdated as that one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amir Riaz</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-11103</link> <dc:creator>Amir Riaz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-11103</guid> <description>I have worked with oracle and teradata both. although both technologies are wonderful but i still feel oracle and exadata are oltp system. my recent experience with exadata shows that teradata is still alot faster than exadata under the same price tag. also see teradata paper.exadata is still oracle.the points described in this papers really hold waits. how oracle justified it</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked with oracle and teradata both. although both technologies are wonderful but i still feel oracle and exadata are oltp system. my recent experience with exadata shows that teradata is still alot faster than exadata under the same price tag. also see teradata paper.</p><p>exadata is still oracle.</p><p>the points described in this papers really hold waits. how oracle justified it</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg Rahn</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link> <dc:creator>Greg Rahn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:53:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-554</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9144&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Chris Adkin&lt;/a&gt;
There are some in Europe and many other parts of the world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="#comment-9144" rel="nofollow">@Chris Adkin</a><br
/> There are some in Europe and many other parts of the world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Adkin</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link> <dc:creator>Chris Adkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-553</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9134&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alex&lt;/a&gt;For a presentation given by Tom Kyte:-&quot;North America Enterprise Technology Centers (ETC)Atlanta, GA
Two HP Oracle Database Machines, each with 8 database server nodes and 14 HP Exadata Storage Server cells holding 12 drives of 1 TB in size each
Capacity of about 46 TB of uncompressed data / rackReston, VA
Three HP Oracle Database Machines, each with 8 database server nodes and 14 HP Exadata Storage Server cells holding 12 drives of 300 GB in size each
Capacity of about 14 TB of uncompressed data / rackA queue has already formed!&quot;One would presume that there are plans afoot for similar facilities to be made available in Europe (?)Chris</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="#comment-9134" rel="nofollow">@Alex</a></p><p>For a presentation given by Tom Kyte:-</p><p>&#8220;North America Enterprise Technology Centers (ETC)</p><p>Atlanta, GA<br
/> Two HP Oracle Database Machines, each with 8 database server nodes and 14 HP Exadata Storage Server cells holding 12 drives of 1 TB in size each<br
/> Capacity of about 46 TB of uncompressed data / rack</p><p>Reston, VA<br
/> Three HP Oracle Database Machines, each with 8 database server nodes and 14 HP Exadata Storage Server cells holding 12 drives of 300 GB in size each<br
/> Capacity of about 14 TB of uncompressed data / rack</p><p>A queue has already formed!&#8221;</p><p>One would presume that there are plans afoot for similar facilities to be made available in Europe (?)</p><p>Chris</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alex</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-558</link> <dc:creator>alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-558</guid> <description>Great to hear that the product is catching on .Just curious if there is a plan to have sort of a “customer center” where the potential clients can test their apps as part of the sales cycle ? I think there was a similar center for RAC.Regards,
Alex</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear that the product is catching on .Just curious if there is a plan to have sort of a “customer center” where the potential clients can test their apps as part of the sales cycle ? I think there was a similar center for RAC.</p><p>Regards,<br
/> Alex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Oracle Infogram: EBS, 11g and Access, Hyperion, PeopleSoft, ADF, Storage, APEX</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link> <dc:creator>Oracle Infogram: EBS, 11g and Access, Hyperion, PeopleSoft, ADF, Storage, APEX</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:54:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-555</guid> <description>[...] of Exadata, there is a bit of a well-justified bragging article over at the Structured Data blog: Exadata Snippits From Oracle F4Q09 Earnings Call.APEX ContestWrite APEX? Want to go to Oracle Openworld...free? Then you need to make your way to [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Exadata, there is a bit of a well-justified bragging article over at the Structured Data blog: Exadata Snippits From Oracle F4Q09 Earnings Call.APEX ContestWrite APEX? Want to go to Oracle Openworld&#8230;free? Then you need to make your way to [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ricky</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-556</link> <dc:creator>ricky</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:12:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-556</guid> <description>It&#039;s the greatest news i hear recently about ORCL except buying Sun.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the greatest news i hear recently about ORCL except buying Sun.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Adkin</title><link>http://structureddata.org/2009/06/23/exadata-snippits-from-oracle-f4q09-earnings-call/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link> <dc:creator>Chris Adkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://structureddata.org/?p=590#comment-557</guid> <description>Impressive to think that this is only the first generation of the technology . . .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive to think that this is only the first generation of the technology . . .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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